Monster X, Classes and Species

Question

How exactly does the points value for a class get worked out when they've taken a monster X ability?

Is it a complete restart of points that then ignores the multiplier in the case of advanced classes?

Would using Biestial Hybrid to take Monstrous Beast allow you to make a monster class in your own faction, or would it just then restrict you to making Biests?

Thanks

natfka · Accepted Answer

Monster X is just replacing your Faction Traits with new ones. X is the number of traits you will be selecting from either your own domain or from Monsters of Myth of Legend.  You still use your classes as normal.   It works like this when creating a class... 1. Take the trait that has Monster X as a class trait. Write it down as a class trait. 2. Replace your Faction Traits. These are your new faction traits "for this class only".  3. Just wrap up any additional Class options you want to take. All points are done according to how the class is built.  Biestial Hybrid just allows X bonus traits from the Biest Domain (only). Reptilia Hybrid X grants the bonus from the Reptilia domain etc. Its a limited way to get traits from a different domain.  If for some reason you took a Monster X trait as a bonus trait.......you are going around the long way with a lot of extra point costs. Its not that it couldn't be done, just that you are really paying a pretty big point cost for the Hybrid trait and then again for the trait that gives Monster X. It would also be difficult to work out, but could be done. I would have to say 9.5 times out of 10 there has to be a better way.

natfka · Answer

@versatilebeatsdj  So fo a level 2 monster..... base species cost is 14. is the cost 14 *2 +20 +traits or 20*2 + traits  If your from the Humanoid Domain...... (Because Biests make better Monsters!) The new faction traits equaling 14pts in total (using Monster X to select 4 new traits)  Level 2 Monster would be 14x2 =28pts Then add your class traits and class options: Monster 4 = 20pts + any additional options or traits you select for your class    Taking Monster X as a Class Trait replaces your faction traits for this class. They are a new creature, and not related genetically to the rest of your faction.   So the steps work like this to make it simpler. 1. Select the Monster X trait as a Class Trait for one of your available classes. Write that down.  2. Select X traits for your Monsters new Faction Traits.  3. Add in any additional Class Traits or options from your class.  Faction Traits are sometimes subject to multipliers when creating classes.  Class Traits are never multiplied.   I am wrapping up a video on Creating Monsters probably tomorrow. So look for it by Tuesday.

Kay O · Answer

@versatilebeatsdj The way Im reading this is that Monster X is being taken as a class trait- In that case, its (Your X new faction traits chosen when you make the monster) x 2 + 20 (Monster Trait) + any other traits. Monster erases your prior faction traits.

If you've taken monster as a faction trait, you'd just use your faction cost as normal, because you'd have generated your monster traits at creation.

arioch85 · Answer

@versatilebeatsdj I believe it depends how you are building it. If you are taking monster X as a class trait then you would use the Faction cost (14) * 2 (Class modifier) + 20 (Monster x trait)....but keep in mind that the traits you then take for monster X also need to be paid for.....so in reality

(14*2) + 20 + Monster X traits + any other class options you take (increased characteristics or whatnot = Total model cost