Fey clarifications + others

So just to make sure, when I make a Fey class I can take any 1st tier power as long as I already have a 1st of that path unlocked with a trait? For example I can take the power "Cunning Blades" If I have Strife (1st tier trait) as a species trait, correct? And something like "Powers of Deceit" would just add a second power for my unit to have access to? So I would need "powers of Deceit" to take an additional 1st tier spell if I'm taking "Changing Landscape" as my first power on my Class 3 (which is a 2nd tier spell) as long as I have a second tier trait on said class 3. The 2nd tier trait under the Wind Sphere of influence (pg 41) has the trait "Wind Movment" and has the ability "High Winds". This ability appears to be missing from the book, the only other place "High Winds" shows up at is in the Power "Strong Winds" first sentence on pg 141. Do bonuses from equipment also rely on the maximum age bonus? So in 1st age you can have, at most, 4 Armor, +4 Strength, +4 Martial, +4 ect stat on a piece of equipment or can you have Armor 5 (most likely Natural armor in this case)? Does this exceed the maximum age bonus of your characteristics since it is applied afterwards? For instance If I have a base toughness of 2, get +4 from my traits, then get 5 Armor, am I at, essentially, Toughness 11 or 10? The only trait that I found that does something like that is Demonic Engine (on page 159). The Primal Sphere says it can only be taken if you take Path of Twilight as your focus, can you take Primal Traits/Powers with something like Shaman X and Spore of the Gods (Harvesters/Armillaria) if your Domain is not Fey? Black Powder Muskets have a Strength of 4. If I put a Bayonet on it for 1pt, do I use the weapon strength or user strength? All it says is "Threat Range 2 (with bayonet addition for 1p)? It would make too much sense to not be user strength but as I read it right now it would be using your Musket strength. EDIT: Oh found another one. When creating a Paragon from a Class 3, do I keep all the class options (stat modifiers, ect) like humanoids when they make their classes from the previous ones? AND if I have a Greater discipline, for example I have "Greater" Deceiver at 30pts, changing the Will 2 to +3 and the True lies from 1 to 2, does it go onto the paragon as the Greater Deceiver or the standard deceiver? I'm going to assume it still counts as having a discipline so if it does go on as a Greater discipline, can I increase it further?

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natfka

Jun 09, 2021

So just to make sure, when I make a Fey class I can take any 1st tier power as long as I already have a 1st of that path unlocked with a trait?

Correct

The 2nd tier trait under the Wind Sphere of influence (pg 41) has the trait "Wind Movment" and has the ability "High Winds"

High Winds is in the FAQ in the abilities section

Do bonuses from equipment also rely on the maximum age bonus?

There are two ways to give bonuses to stats. Increases and Enhancements. Each type is limited by the maximum Age bonus. So in the first age you can get Increases up to 4 and Enhancements up to 4.

So technically you could get 4 increases in one characteristic and 4 Enhancements that are applied to the same characteristic.

The Primal Sphere says it can only be taken if you take Path of Twilight as your focus, can you take Primal Traits/Powers with something like Shaman X and Spore of the Gods (Harvesters/Armillaria) if your Domain is not Fey?

You would need something like Forbidden Lore.

Black Powder Muskets have a Strength of 4. If I put a Bayonet on it for 1pt, do I use the weapon strength or user strength?

Used as a bayonet it becomes a melee weapon and should use the users strength.

When creating a Paragon from a Class 3, do I keep all the class options (stat modifiers, ect) like humanoids when they make their classes from the previous ones? Yes

AND if I have a Greater discipline, for example I have "Greater" Deceiver at 30pts, changing the Will 2 to +3 and the True lies from 1 to 2, does it go onto the paragon as the Greater Deceiver or the standard deceiver? Yes

I'm going to assume it still counts as having a discipline so if it does go on as a Greater discipline, can I increase it further? if making the paragon from an Archlord, yes you can take greater discipline as the Archlord and that would be passed on. You will have to let us know how many points you Paragon is getting up to!

Sounds like your having fun creating the gods!

Durnaxe

Jun 10, 2021

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Thanks! One more follow up on greater disciplines from an Archlord to a Paragon. I take Greater Deceiver at 30 points on my Archlord (15x2) that gets passed onto my Paragon and I chose to enhance it further there. Does it use the base points from the originial discipline to be multiplied or the new cost after getting it from the Archlord? So does its math look like 30+15=45 or 30x2=60? Speaking of the Discipline deceiver actually, true lies X increases the strength of a single power by X. Does that also increase its properties by X?

natfka

Jun 10, 2021

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@Durnaxe Greater Discipline like that gets expensive. Its multiplied again. Since you are paying 30pts for your Discipline it goes up to 60.

True Lies will increase your properties. Anytime you are augmenting or customizing a power it will increase the properties unless the ability specifically mentions it not doing so.

I feel your upcoming Paragon is going to be mighty expensive, but quite powerful. Sounds like fun.